Don’t pretend then you’ll find out what you are — J. Krishnamurti

The sound quality in the beginning is very poor. It will get better, it is only a short recording:

Transcript from Youtube:

00:05
Q: Sir, aren’t you making a distinction
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when you speak of thoughts in action
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versus not using thoughts?
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Aren’t you making a distinction between memory of facts,
00:22
like your address,
00:24
versus memory of patterns, especially patterns of relationship?
00:29
K: Sir, that is fairly clear. The gentleman asks,
00:34
aren’t you making a difference, isn’t there a difference
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between memory of facts,
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memory as knowledge,
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which is the understanding of facts,
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and the freedom from the fact
00:57
and going beyond it.
00:59
Is that the question, sir?
01:04
Q: The lack of thoughts that represent patterns of relationships.
01:13
K: I am sorry, I can’t hear.
01:29
There is memory that represents fact and relationship.
01:34
A: Pattern. Patterns of relationship.
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K: Patterns of relationship.
01:45
There is memory that represents patterns of relationship.
01:55
Do you have patterns in relationship?
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This is something new which I have not heard before.
02:04
Do you have patterns of relationship?
02:06
You behave towards one person in one way,
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towards another, another way, and to your boss another way,
02:12
to your wife another way, if you have a cook, another way
02:16
– is that the pattern of behaviour?
02:18
Your analyst in one way, to your doctor another way
02:21
– is that it?
02:24
Is that it?
02:26
What a complicated life you must have.
02:36
You must be changing your masks all the time, aren’t you?
02:44
When you go to the doctor you put on one mask,
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when you meet your wife put on a different mask,
02:49
and your boss, and so on – changing, putting on masks.
02:54
And you call that patterns of behaviour in relationship?
03:01
Good Lord.
03:05
So you have different facets of relationship.
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That means you are never yourself,
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whatever that be,
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there is always a pretension, a pose.
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And that inevitably breeds conflict.
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You are different to your wife, different to your boss,
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different to the priest if you have one,
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obviously you are totally different to your analyst, if you have one.
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So, you are always living in contradiction
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and therefore conflict.
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Now when you see that, when you are really aware of that,
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honestly, you know,
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not deceive yourself,
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when you are actually aware that you are pretending all the time,
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putting on different faces all the time,
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when you see the falseness of it
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then you see the truth that you must be yourself.
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Then you begin to enquire what is yourself.
04:32
Is not yourself all these patterns?
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Are you following this?
04:42
Is not yourself how you behave to the doctor,
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to the wife, to the child, and so on?
04:49
That is yourself.
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So, you say: what is myself?
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To find that out there must be no pretention.
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Don’t pretend to be one thing, say another, do another.
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Then you will find out what you are.
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You will find out what you are,
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which is, all these calculated pretensions.
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And when you go beyond all these pretensions,
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all these poses, all these imaginations,
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contriving remembrances, images,
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what are you at the end of it.
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Nothing at all, are you, aren’t you?
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And we are frightened to be nothing.
06:01
You say, well, if I am nothing, I’ll be destroyed by society.
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Be destroyed by society. You won’t be destroyed.
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You see, sir, when you are really nothing,
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which means thought,
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which has put together the me,
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is no longer there.
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Then there is a totally different kind of energy,
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which is much more real than the imaginary me
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which has been put together by thought.

Holger

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